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obama also endorsed peace talks with the enemy, the taliban. major garrett is covering at the white house for us tonight. major? >> reporter: scott, the president has long encouraged the afghan government to seek peace with taliban fighters who infiltrate from neighboring pakistan. today for the first time mr. obama said those talks are specific enough that they deserve a formal home. >> president karzai updated me on the afghan government's road map to peace and today we agreed that this process should be advanced by the opening of a taliban office to facilitate talks. >> reporter: prospects for peace remain dim and taliban aggression when fighting resumes this spring is not expected to let up. but the u.s. combat role will never be the same. >> our troops will continue to fight alongside afghans when needed, but let me say it as plainly as i can: starting this spring our troops will have a different mission. training, advising, assisting afghan forces. it will be an historic moment and another step toward full afghan sovereignty, something i
obama also endorsed peace talks with the enemy, the taliban. major garrett is covering at the white house for us tonight. major? >> reporter: scott, the president has long encouraged the afghan government to seek peace with taliban fighters who infiltrate from neighboring pakistan. today for the first time mr. obama said those talks are specific enough that they deserve a formal home. >> president karzai updated me on the afghan government's road map to peace and today we agreed...
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to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student organization we would invite is the muslim student association. >> good evening, mr. president. i am with the moslem student association. we understand education as a vital factor in the overall growth and future stability of afghanistan. educated citizens can drive change from within. what are your plans short-term and long-term to ensure that this progress that you mentioned of education continues to move forward? especially in regard to increased access of education for women. >> we did see a great deal of violence aga
to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student...
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that i did fight with taliban together against american soldiers between the war. and i should i should sign papers that i am be a member of al qaeda what were the charges first. there was no and no reason for just the. pakistani people they sold me for bounty or through some dollar to the americans. said this man he's a terrorist and very soon few months later they found out that i'm innocent and they want me. that i'm going to sign papers they forced me to sign papers that i should agree that i'm be a member of either because because they didn't have anything against me in their hands and you're saying force you have they force you say what were they doing to shoot to do that. they used torture techniques like waterboarding and electroshocks they sought after this i'm going to sign and agree that i'm being a member of al qaeda and every time i refused to sign they tried another kind of torture they saw i walked one time can you tell us the worst thing one of a better word that you saw going on there. example i saw. i had used to be just nine or if you're sort of
that i did fight with taliban together against american soldiers between the war. and i should i should sign papers that i am be a member of al qaeda what were the charges first. there was no and no reason for just the. pakistani people they sold me for bounty or through some dollar to the americans. said this man he's a terrorist and very soon few months later they found out that i'm innocent and they want me. that i'm going to sign papers they forced me to sign papers that i should agree that...
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to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student organization we would invite is the muslim student association. >> good evening, mr. president. i am with the moslem student association. we understand education as a vital factor in the overall growth and future stability of afghanistan. educated citizens can drive change from within. what are your plans short-term and long-term to ensure that this progress that you mentioned of education continues to move forward? especially in regard to increased access of education for women. >> we did see a great deal of violence aga
to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student...
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we pushed the taliban out of their strong holds. the reason they went to war in the first place is now within reach. we want to ensure that al qaeda can never again use afghanistan to launch attacks against america. the 33 thousand additional forces that i ordered served with honor. they completed their mission. they returned last fall. this week we agreed that in spring afghan forces will take the lead across their country and our troops will shift to a supporting role. in the coming months, i will announce the next phase of our drawdown. this progress has been possible because of the heroic sacrifices of our troops and diplomats. alongside forces from many nations. or than half one million americans have served in afghanistan. thousands have been wounded. more than 2000 have given their lives. this remains a very difficult mission. the work ahead will not be easy. our forces are still in harms way. make no mistake. our path is clear. we are moving forward. after more than a decade of war, the nation that we need to rebuild is our
we pushed the taliban out of their strong holds. the reason they went to war in the first place is now within reach. we want to ensure that al qaeda can never again use afghanistan to launch attacks against america. the 33 thousand additional forces that i ordered served with honor. they completed their mission. they returned last fall. this week we agreed that in spring afghan forces will take the lead across their country and our troops will shift to a supporting role. in the coming months, i...
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its taliban are most important. we should facilitate it but not jump in and try to resolve the problem os ourselves. however i think that afghan journalist question on gend are equality during the press conference showed maybe an unmovable obstacle which is what the taliban do too women, on the one hand and what the afghan constitution says to protect women, on the other hand you have heard of this incident withiousev zai in pakistan where they tried to assassinate her. in afghanistan it is works the three proxies of the military, the haqqani,-- they cross the border to take on the afghan government. they are also very much involved in torching girls schools, poisoning the lunches of girls schools and killing school girl its like malani. so it is going to be hard. >> many, many compli cations, teter tomsen and said jawad, thank you very much. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: the faa's decision to examine the boeing 787 dreamliner; the buzz on cutting edge technology; and shields and brooks. but first, the
its taliban are most important. we should facilitate it but not jump in and try to resolve the problem os ourselves. however i think that afghan journalist question on gend are equality during the press conference showed maybe an unmovable obstacle which is what the taliban do too women, on the one hand and what the afghan constitution says to protect women, on the other hand you have heard of this incident withiousev zai in pakistan where they tried to assassinate her. in afghanistan it is...
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mentioned a big scare in 2009 when they feared that the pakistani taliban might have gotten a hold of elements of a nuclear weapon or a dirty bomb. fortunately, that turned out to be a false alarm but, boy, they really wanted to have forces then there. >> right. >> if it looked like pakistan would collapse, they want to forces. >> you interviewed hamid karzai blaming the united states for its -- the instability in the country, blaming the u.s. and some of its allies promoting lawlessness in afghanistan by what he referred to as spreading corruption in his country. what stood out to you regarding his remarks? he was asked about the corruption and as david pointed out as well as the strategic alliance in protecting any u.s. troops to remain in that country. >> well, during that interview, i asked president karzai if he would give the americans immunity as they want and he said he leaves that up to the afghan people, that he would bring it in to a vote. not necessarily an electoral vote but talk to the afghans and advisers to see how they want to proceed. president karzai for sometime no
mentioned a big scare in 2009 when they feared that the pakistani taliban might have gotten a hold of elements of a nuclear weapon or a dirty bomb. fortunately, that turned out to be a false alarm but, boy, they really wanted to have forces then there. >> right. >> if it looked like pakistan would collapse, they want to forces. >> you interviewed hamid karzai blaming the united states for its -- the instability in the country, blaming the u.s. and some of its allies promoting...
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taliban infiltration is often to blame. the tactic is to undermine the relationship between afghan forces and the coalition partners, making it more difficult for the afghan military to take over security here. president karzai arrived in washington today. mapping out afghanistan's future after foreign combat troops have left. their meeting will determine the primary mission, to fight the taliban or to get rid of al qaeda. president karzai wants soldiers. his forces lead emissions across the country. they are still not ready. for many years to come, these soldiers in afghanistan generally will rely on america's support. >> for more on those meetings taking place, i spoke with peter bergen. what is the main sticking point in these meetings between what the white house wants and what president karzai wants? >> it is the question of immunity for american forces. the u.s. does not want its soldiers being prosecuted by an afghan accords for obvious reasons. this is a big sticking point. >> karzai would like that? >> yes. that is
taliban infiltration is often to blame. the tactic is to undermine the relationship between afghan forces and the coalition partners, making it more difficult for the afghan military to take over security here. president karzai arrived in washington today. mapping out afghanistan's future after foreign combat troops have left. their meeting will determine the primary mission, to fight the taliban or to get rid of al qaeda. president karzai wants soldiers. his forces lead emissions across the...
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the taliban are extremely divided. and it is not clear whether they're even sincere about the talks or using them as a tactic. i'll be honest with you. i think at the end of the day, you're going to have the taliban once again have a role in afghanistan, particularly in the south, where they have all the ethnic ties. they're going to be part of afghanistan's future. what is not obvious, though, is that the taliban, even after they come back, are going to once again establish a close relationship with al qaeda. it is quite possible that they learned their lesson. what this suggests is you could have an afghanistan which does not provide sanctuary to al qaeda, to any significant degree, but will also be an afghanistan that kind of looks messy, that looks tribal, that has all these ethnic and geographic divisions and in some ways looks quite a bit like the afghanistan before the united states invested this decade of effort. >> did something jump out at you, richard, you watched this afghanistan story for a long time, from
the taliban are extremely divided. and it is not clear whether they're even sincere about the talks or using them as a tactic. i'll be honest with you. i think at the end of the day, you're going to have the taliban once again have a role in afghanistan, particularly in the south, where they have all the ethnic ties. they're going to be part of afghanistan's future. what is not obvious, though, is that the taliban, even after they come back, are going to once again establish a close...
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despite the billions spent and the thousands of lives lost, the taliban has not been defeated. some say at the america pulls out too quickly, it will be trade promises made and leave afghanistan vulnerable. >> it will be difficult to engage down the road if there is a large al qaeda return or the taliban takes over the country, to get the afghanistan's to trust us when we say we will be there to help you. >> america described it as the final chapter in afghanistan. president obama downsized out of the ambitions, winding down the war that is increasingly unpopular at home. this is not the final chapter. that is just that americans have grown wary about spending the money and spilling the blood. >>> for more on the future of the u.s. mission, i spoke a short time ago with the former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan. ambassador, thank you very much for coming in. president obama says that things are going so well he can actually speed up the transition. are the afghan security forces really ready to take over in the spring or is this more a matter of expediency for both countries? >
despite the billions spent and the thousands of lives lost, the taliban has not been defeated. some say at the america pulls out too quickly, it will be trade promises made and leave afghanistan vulnerable. >> it will be difficult to engage down the road if there is a large al qaeda return or the taliban takes over the country, to get the afghanistan's to trust us when we say we will be there to help you. >> america described it as the final chapter in afghanistan. president obama...
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the fact of the matter is that the taliban control a significant part of the country. even after the so-called mini surge that was orchestrated by general petraeus and general mcchrystal. the fact of the matter is that president karzai is very unpopular. and the fact of the matter is that geographically a central government in kabul can never really control the vast majority of that country, including the areas most closer to pakistan. >> ambassador, i was struck by the last question that the president was asked at his joint press conference about afghan women. and in response, he said, in part, the afghan constitution protects the rights of afghan women and the u.s. strongly believes that afghanistan cannot succeed unless it gives opportunity to its women. what is the reality right now for women and girls in afghanistan? and what is the reality likely to be for women and girls after the u.s. troop presence is withdrawn? >> in the major cities in kabul, obviously, it's been a huge renaissance of women's rights and across the country and the u.s. military empowered youn
the fact of the matter is that the taliban control a significant part of the country. even after the so-called mini surge that was orchestrated by general petraeus and general mcchrystal. the fact of the matter is that president karzai is very unpopular. and the fact of the matter is that geographically a central government in kabul can never really control the vast majority of that country, including the areas most closer to pakistan. >> ambassador, i was struck by the last question that...
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caller: i spent time in afghanistan during the mujahedin time and the taliban time. i had nothing coming from those two regimes. i saw there--- theur negative points. i graduated high school in 2003. in 2004, i started working as an interpreter. i saw every second of the transition been made. security is not much better, but it is getting toward that. the education has gone higher. the economic situation is building every day. host: let me get your take on this week from one of our viewers. -- this week from one of our viewers. what is your take on karzai and his government? caller: people think that karzai is not a great president. but i also have my personal view on that. i do not know him personally. he is now my brother or anything, but he has done so much for the afghan country and for the afghans. many people cannot see the truth. afghanistan is not an easy country to deal with. the afghans, they were raised wild card they have been in the war not just for 35 years. afghanistan has been at war for centuries. it is really hard for one person to control the whole
caller: i spent time in afghanistan during the mujahedin time and the taliban time. i had nothing coming from those two regimes. i saw there--- theur negative points. i graduated high school in 2003. in 2004, i started working as an interpreter. i saw every second of the transition been made. security is not much better, but it is getting toward that. the education has gone higher. the economic situation is building every day. host: let me get your take on this week from one of our viewers. --...
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we agreed on allowing the taliban office in qatar, in doha, where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace where we will be seeking the help of relevant regional countries, including pakistan. we'll be trying our best together with the united states and our other allies to return peace and stability to afghanistan as soon as possible, and employing all the means that we have within our power to do that so the afghan people can live in and work for their prosperity and educate their children. the president and i also discussed the economic transition in afghanistan and all that entails for afghanistan. once the transition to afghan forces is completed, once the bulk of the international forces have withdrawn from afghanistan, we hope that the dividends of that transition, economically to afghanistan, will be beneficial to the afghan people and will not have adverse affects on afghan economy and the prosperity that we have gained in the past many years. we also discussed the issue of election in afghanistan and the importance of e
we agreed on allowing the taliban office in qatar, in doha, where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace where we will be seeking the help of relevant regional countries, including pakistan. we'll be trying our best together with the united states and our other allies to return peace and stability to afghanistan as soon as possible, and employing all the means that we have within our power to do that so the afghan people can live in...
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a lot of welcome by the afghan government whose position is increasingly fragile mental functioning taliban insurgency hillary men leverage worked extensively with you was diplomats in the middle east and asia believe president karzai isn't alone when situation. i think these talks are for the president and his national security principals to let afghanistan's president karzai down as softly as they can to let him know that unfortunately they're not going to make good on their promise to completely train. the afghan military and police before u.s. troops leave i think this this visit is about trying to let cars i know as nicely as they can that they're not going to make good on their promise to continue to defend afghanistan and train up afghanistan's military and i think part of it is that president obama. after he agreed to surge the troops into afghanistan i think pretty quickly realized if he didn't realize even before the surge that there is no military solution for the united states in afghanistan and so i think in part the initial surge of troops by the president in two thousand and
a lot of welcome by the afghan government whose position is increasingly fragile mental functioning taliban insurgency hillary men leverage worked extensively with you was diplomats in the middle east and asia believe president karzai isn't alone when situation. i think these talks are for the president and his national security principals to let afghanistan's president karzai down as softly as they can to let him know that unfortunately they're not going to make good on their promise to...
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. >>> a role of america in afghanistan and how many troops will it take to keep the taliban at bay? we'll get two very unique perspectives on that. >> they're quite legitimate and i want to get answers myself before i take the position. >> coming up, california congressman before questioning the top job at the pentagon being derail the president's second-term agenda. as we begin this hour we'll take you straight to the white house where after a week of meetings with gun control advocates, representatives of the gaming industry and other groups, vice president biden will submit his recommendations to the president as early as tuesday for ways to prevent gun violence moving forward. kristen welker joins us with more on that. let's start out with what we can expect to come, again, this tuesday deadline is pretty self-imposed by the gun task force and the president himself, and all of them trying to make the president's state of the union when it comes up at the end of the month. >> reporter: that's right. we're expecting the vice president to put forth a broad set of proposals includin
. >>> a role of america in afghanistan and how many troops will it take to keep the taliban at bay? we'll get two very unique perspectives on that. >> they're quite legitimate and i want to get answers myself before i take the position. >> coming up, california congressman before questioning the top job at the pentagon being derail the president's second-term agenda. as we begin this hour we'll take you straight to the white house where after a week of meetings with gun...
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the other thing, the taliban are nowhere. don't say the taliban subpoena only in pakistan. they are in the regions -- so they are in part of the landscape. it is something that should be identified by the peace council, the iran government, whatever we can do to help the process, they should do that. pakistan gets involved. this is a classic scenario. i read it a long time ago. i read it to remind myself how intertwined is the history and the culture and the position of these two countries. so sometimes our problems become your problems and your problems become our problems. >> did you want to comment on that? >> i think in the context that takes place between the pakistan army and the iranian government let's get america out of here. they have bigger plans. so in the private meetings that is what their position is. so smaller use prisons will come. publicly they right lane expresses concerns about that. they are concerned about the deterioration of security in pakistan. but as far as the private meetings that we're not sure about what the intention of the united states is
the other thing, the taliban are nowhere. don't say the taliban subpoena only in pakistan. they are in the regions -- so they are in part of the landscape. it is something that should be identified by the peace council, the iran government, whatever we can do to help the process, they should do that. pakistan gets involved. this is a classic scenario. i read it a long time ago. i read it to remind myself how intertwined is the history and the culture and the position of these two countries. so...
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the taliban released a statement on wednesday. they want to flee from afghanistan just as they turn tail and ran from vietnam. when america faced utter destruction in vietnam, they came up with the formula declare victory and run and want to utilize the formula of transfer security and run here in afghanistan. what do you make of that? >> wow. >> yeah. >> taliban has a p.r. shop. who knew? >> who knew? >> the taliban. >> where is it written that the united states in its adventures abroad has to acquire such perplexing enemies and really irritating allies, like president karzai? >> as well. >> here's a guy who is coming to washington to ask for certain things, and he is saying you caused all this corruption here. you know, he is something of a -- we did pour billions of dollars in there. there was probably insufficient supervision of what they were doing with our money but really he has been sort of an irritant for 11 years, and he is about to exit. things will change. >> maggie, in terms of sort of anything that might have biparti
the taliban released a statement on wednesday. they want to flee from afghanistan just as they turn tail and ran from vietnam. when america faced utter destruction in vietnam, they came up with the formula declare victory and run and want to utilize the formula of transfer security and run here in afghanistan. what do you make of that? >> wow. >> yeah. >> taliban has a p.r. shop. who knew? >> who knew? >> the taliban. >> where is it written that the united...
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the afghans in the rural villages and place we see most of the fighting and most of the soldiers and taliban, they are ready for a withdrawal because they feel if the withdrawal happens, there will be less fighting. but many analysts say the fighting will continue. >> on a side note, real interesting, before we let you go, we don't get much face time with atia, we were talking about movies coming to afghanistan, zero dark thirty, whether it was seen there yet. girls going back to school. here in america we think all children need to be educated. women can't go to the movie theater in afghanistan. >> no, they can't. if they try to it would be a dangerous prospect. the men that go to the movie theaters, we have to remember afghanistan doesn't have a class that have jobs, many boys are going there and causing troubles. girls cannot go and bear by go out by themselves without being harassed. massive sexual harass. me ment on the streets. there are children providing for their families and treated pretty badly. >> we need to continue talking about this. thanks for being here. great to see you. as
the afghans in the rural villages and place we see most of the fighting and most of the soldiers and taliban, they are ready for a withdrawal because they feel if the withdrawal happens, there will be less fighting. but many analysts say the fighting will continue. >> on a side note, real interesting, before we let you go, we don't get much face time with atia, we were talking about movies coming to afghanistan, zero dark thirty, whether it was seen there yet. girls going back to school....
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is not is not just one faction one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have reconsolidation well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. so i want to know what you say do you take the administration at its word when it says seriously considering taking troops out of afghanistan as we've heard in recent days and weeks for a harvest of the resident took that question to the streets of the big apple take a look. the obama administration has recently said that it's considering having no troops in afghanistan after just sumber of two thousand and fourteen is that a good thing a bad day or a totally made up thing designed for political shenanigans this week let's talk about that do you even think he's going to do it he said that two years ago and it didn't happen so i don
is not is not just one faction one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have reconsolidation well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. so i want to know what you say do...
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we agreed on allowing the taliban have an office, where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace, where we will be seeking that help of relevant reasonable countries, including pakistan, where we will try our best together with the other allies to return peace and stability to afghanistan as soon as possible and employee in all the means that are within our power to do that, so that the afghan people can live in security, peace, and work for the prosperity and education of their children. the president and i also discussed the economic transition of afghanistan and all that entails for afghanistan. once the transition to afghan forces is completed, once the bulk of the international forces are withdrawn from afghanistan, we hope the dividends of that transition will be beneficial to the afghan people and will not have adverse effects on afghan economy and the prosperity that we have obtained. we also discussed the issue of the election in afghanistan and the importance of election for the afghan people, with the hope that w
we agreed on allowing the taliban have an office, where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace, where we will be seeking that help of relevant reasonable countries, including pakistan, where we will try our best together with the other allies to return peace and stability to afghanistan as soon as possible and employee in all the means that are within our power to do that, so that the afghan people can live in security, peace, and...
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went in there to try to clean up al qaeda destroyed taliban, if you will, the taliban leadership, is that all of these years later, so many billions of dollars spent, so many lives lost, u.s. troops can't even go out on joint combat maneuvers with afghan officials because they don't trust them because so many of these afghan military officers and regular troops have killed americans and other nato allies. >> that's right. i mean, to be fair, wolf, the number of those so-called green on blue attacks, it has dropped since it hit a high at the end of the summer. but you're right -- >> have they resumed joint maneuvers? >> they have. but in a lot of cases, the u.s. forces now have what they call sort of guardian angels in which you have troops specifically set aside to sort of watch over those who are working with the afghans. just an unfortunate byproduct. >> an important part of this is the really tense relationship that does exist between the president of the united states and our foreign policy apparatus and hamid karzai. there has always been problems with corruption in that governm
went in there to try to clean up al qaeda destroyed taliban, if you will, the taliban leadership, is that all of these years later, so many billions of dollars spent, so many lives lost, u.s. troops can't even go out on joint combat maneuvers with afghan officials because they don't trust them because so many of these afghan military officers and regular troops have killed americans and other nato allies. >> that's right. i mean, to be fair, wolf, the number of those so-called green on...
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to the table my suspicion is not and the taliban is divided between the hardliners who want to hold out and go for an all out victory and those who are weary of the war and want some sort of a compromise but if i was the taliban i would say look maybe we should hold out here because certainly their negotiating position seems to be preferable will be brief tonight in neighboring pakistan security forces are on high alert in the country's largest city correct the string of bombings targeting shia muslim to cross the country has left at least one hundred fifteen people dead so the extremists of admitted carrying out the deadliest attack on a crowded billion hole in the southwest killing eighty one there and injured more than one hundred twenty shia muslims are a minority in pakistan and the target of violent attacks which have seen in recent . other world views the un for swift deployment of international troops in mali after massive clashes between militants and government forces in the central town president of france france were alarmed earlier voiced his country's readiness to inte
to the table my suspicion is not and the taliban is divided between the hardliners who want to hold out and go for an all out victory and those who are weary of the war and want some sort of a compromise but if i was the taliban i would say look maybe we should hold out here because certainly their negotiating position seems to be preferable will be brief tonight in neighboring pakistan security forces are on high alert in the country's largest city correct the string of bombings targeting shia...
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taliban controlling the country. al-qaeda riding on their backs, a safe haven to plan for attacks. >> megyn: and american men and women serving that, wondering what they were there for if the country winds up looking much like it did in 2000. >> exactly. >> megyn: some the issues that will be considered. ambassador bolten, thanks for being here, sir. >> thank you. >> megyn: see you soon. want to get to some other news at this hour, this is a fox news alert on this flu outbreak. as the death toll climbs and one federal health agency starts calling this an epidemic, i'm megyn kelly, the centers for disease control releasing its latest numbers on the flu today noting that 20 children have now died and 47 states are now dealing with widespread flu activity. up from 41 last week. but there's a big lag in the c.d.c. reporting and those numbers do not tell the whole story. in just the last 48 hours, we've learned that flu now killed 27 in minnesota, 22 in pennsylvania, 18 in massachusetts, and 8 in oklahoma, 6 in illinois.
taliban controlling the country. al-qaeda riding on their backs, a safe haven to plan for attacks. >> megyn: and american men and women serving that, wondering what they were there for if the country winds up looking much like it did in 2000. >> exactly. >> megyn: some the issues that will be considered. ambassador bolten, thanks for being here, sir. >> thank you. >> megyn: see you soon. want to get to some other news at this hour, this is a fox news alert on this...
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wracked by decades of war and foreign invasion, afghanistan was suffering under the barbaric rule of the taliban until the u.s. -led invasion of 2001. >> we are committed to doing everything we can to assist you in this time of transition to new afghanistan and afghanistan where people will be able to live in peace. >> it's now a democratic country with an elected government, with human rights for all. >> hamid karzai made his first visit to washington 11 years ago this month. >> how do you expect american forces to stay in afghanistan? >> as long as we are still have terrorist items. and as long as the bad guys are there. americans go out, unless we finish the job. >> how many american troops will remain after the u.s. combat mission ends next year is now being decided. karzai may not like the answer. >> president karzai relationship with president bush was very congenial. but it all changed when president obama came to office. president karzai got increasingly distant largely by the assessment by some there, the insiders in washington that president karzai was part of the problem. >> two natio
wracked by decades of war and foreign invasion, afghanistan was suffering under the barbaric rule of the taliban until the u.s. -led invasion of 2001. >> we are committed to doing everything we can to assist you in this time of transition to new afghanistan and afghanistan where people will be able to live in peace. >> it's now a democratic country with an elected government, with human rights for all. >> hamid karzai made his first visit to washington 11 years ago this month....
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caller: i spent time in afghanistan during the mujahedin time and the taliban time. i had nothing coming from those two regimes. i saw their negative points. i graduated high school in 2003. in 2004, i started working as an interpreter. i saw every second of the transition been made. security is not much better, but it is getting toward that. the education has gone higher. the economic situation is building every day. host: let me get your take on this tweet from one of our viewers. what is your take on karzai and his government? caller: people think that karzai is not a great president. but i also have my personal viewi do not know him personally. he is now my brother or anything, but he has done so much for the afghan country and for the afghans. many people cannot see the truth. afghanistan is not an easy country to deal with. the afghans, they were raised wild card they have been in the war not just for 35 years. people have been using the word of 35 years. that is not what i have been thinking of. afghanistan has been at war for centuries. it is really hard for
caller: i spent time in afghanistan during the mujahedin time and the taliban time. i had nothing coming from those two regimes. i saw their negative points. i graduated high school in 2003. in 2004, i started working as an interpreter. i saw every second of the transition been made. security is not much better, but it is getting toward that. the education has gone higher. the economic situation is building every day. host: let me get your take on this tweet from one of our viewers. what is...
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discussions tomorrow witt presideet obama from the hhur long discussion, the u-s wanted assurances that thh taliban ould not be allowed to set u shop leave. i can assure you mr. will, with the help that you providee be able to provide security to it's people aad to protect it's borders tte obama administrrtion warns not to presidents and theer wo -oop 3 delegations at the white house ... as thh two ides movv closer to ending the eleven year war on terror in afghanistan. i'm ed payne reporting. haaf of the world's food... is put to waste. waste.that'' according to a new study... by the mmchanical engineers.thee of - found that eech year... more are produced... nd that od - customers end up throwing away as much aa half of what they 3uy at the store. - tailgatinn alwayssssarts eaaly when you are following the purple friddy caravan. but this ttme it's more justifiee then ever.... instead offwaiting until sunday, the ravens are challenggng the broncos tomoorow at 4:30. pn white marsh to see why the fans think this timm will be different when ii comes to the last ttme... ton vs. ray lewiss 3 3 3 p, comi
discussions tomorrow witt presideet obama from the hhur long discussion, the u-s wanted assurances that thh taliban ould not be allowed to set u shop leave. i can assure you mr. will, with the help that you providee be able to provide security to it's people aad to protect it's borders tte obama administrrtion warns not to presidents and theer wo -oop 3 delegations at the white house ... as thh two ides movv closer to ending the eleven year war on terror in afghanistan. i'm ed payne reporting....
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plus the pentagon wants karzai's word that the afghan security forces will keep the taliban from setting up shop as soon as the u.s. pulls out its troops. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: keep in mind secretary of state hillary clinton and secretary of defense leon panetta are both leaving their post within weeks. how the president's nominees could effect u.s. troop withdrawal. live in washington kyla campbell. >>> the pastor who was supposed to deliver the benediction at president obama's inauguration is now backing out. that is after remarks made by the reverend louie surfaced that he made two decades ago condemning the same sex rights movement. spokeswoman for the presidential inaugural committee says they didn't know about his past comments. she says he was chosen by his conferences attract tens of thousands of young people. >>> three years after a devastating earthquake haiti is still in dire straits. they are in need of medicine, and food and clean water. human rights groups are holding solidarity civiles across -- vigils across the world. activists say the red cross received hundreds of
plus the pentagon wants karzai's word that the afghan security forces will keep the taliban from setting up shop as soon as the u.s. pulls out its troops. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: keep in mind secretary of state hillary clinton and secretary of defense leon panetta are both leaving their post within weeks. how the president's nominees could effect u.s. troop withdrawal. live in washington kyla campbell. >>> the pastor who was supposed to deliver the benediction at president...
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when you talk to afghans in remote villages and ones who have seen the air strikes, taliban coming into their villages from other provinces, other countries even. they are ready for the fight to be over, but they don't know what will cop after. when you talk to afghans in the cities like kabul, herat, when you talk to those afghans, they have seen the difference in the last decade, seen the internet come to the city, more than 30 television stations after zero after the taliban. radio stations, media fashion industry growing in afghanistan. those are the afghans who are afraid of the international community leaving, they believe america won't abandon them, because they have a fear of what will happen after 2014, and that means possibly the taliban coming back, possibly a civil war. >> you get a sense that the goal after 2014 is zero u.s. troops in afghanistan? >> the last several years, when i spoke with military and diplomatic officials, they kept repeating they will never abandon afghanistan again. when you talk on background to some of the ambassadors from different countries, some g
when you talk to afghans in remote villages and ones who have seen the air strikes, taliban coming into their villages from other provinces, other countries even. they are ready for the fight to be over, but they don't know what will cop after. when you talk to afghans in the cities like kabul, herat, when you talk to those afghans, they have seen the difference in the last decade, seen the internet come to the city, more than 30 television stations after zero after the taliban. radio stations,...
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which will not allow the taliban to return. the taliban, the country was hijacked by al qaeda. the government was completely ostracized. there was not a single government except pakistan. it was living in a time warp. therefore, it was possible for al qaeda to be the master of taliban leadership [indiscernible] i do not think that kind of situation is able to return. now that the world is focused on afghanistan. >> i would prepare to spend a few billion dollars to make sure. >> thank you. i work for voice of america. thanks for the discussion and insight. the first question is the presence of the u.s. troops. there is a possibility that came out yesterday, how will be perceived in pakistan and you're trying to reject the taliban government. where did you see them, on the mountains or on the streets of kabul? we do not see a better political setup in afghanistan from that side. where do you see them, then? thank you. >> the first question about how well pakistan -- will pakistan see the continued u.s. presence, there is one pakistan government and my anticipation is there will e
which will not allow the taliban to return. the taliban, the country was hijacked by al qaeda. the government was completely ostracized. there was not a single government except pakistan. it was living in a time warp. therefore, it was possible for al qaeda to be the master of taliban leadership [indiscernible] i do not think that kind of situation is able to return. now that the world is focused on afghanistan. >> i would prepare to spend a few billion dollars to make sure. >>...
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is not is not just one faction and one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have. well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. perhaps the most important topic that came up for debate between the two presidents today was how many troops will remain in the country after the u.s. withdrawals up until recently and we've heard numbers of anywhere between five and ten thousand troops but just days before the meeting between the two presidents was slated to take place white house deputy national security adviser ben rhodes said the administration is considering pulling all troops out of the country so we wanted to know what you think do you think that the administration will be will be true to its word it is seriously considering taking all the troops out of afghanis
is not is not just one faction and one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have. well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. perhaps the most important topic that came...
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is there a better strategy for peace talks with the taliban? that could actually produce a formal end to the war, our departure really can't. jenna: if you would, michael, because the last time you were in afghanistan i remember reading some of your notes from that trip. you said at that time you said the taliban are not winning now, but that that could change, and so when we're looking at a war and finishing it and who won and who lost if the taliban are negotiated with is that a win for us? is it a win for the american people and our security? >> i think our core security goal is to make sure that the government in afghanistan is in control of its own territory to the point where terrorists sanctuaries cannot spring up again. that is the core american national security goal. we'd like to be able to also keep an eye on pakistan's western provincess from that area as well and continue some of the operations that as you know we've been conducting from afghanistan to go after terrorists there too. those are our core interests. everything else is
is there a better strategy for peace talks with the taliban? that could actually produce a formal end to the war, our departure really can't. jenna: if you would, michael, because the last time you were in afghanistan i remember reading some of your notes from that trip. you said at that time you said the taliban are not winning now, but that that could change, and so when we're looking at a war and finishing it and who won and who lost if the taliban are negotiated with is that a win for us?...
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the taliban targeted her because of stopping young girls from getting education . we wish her all of the best. and there is a movement brewing in texas to get the state to secede from the u.s.. there is it a petition on the white house website that received 124,000 signatures since president obama's reelection. has the fiscal cliff helped thrertheir cause. joining us is it the texas national move the group pushing for secession. tell us why it is it time for texas to secede from the union? >> well, uma, there is it a lot of reasons that we believe that texas should leave the union. but basically it boils down to political freedom that we have loss. cultural freedom and certainly the economy that you have been talking about on your show for the last 45 minutes. there is it 16 trillion rein it is right there and with the negotiations that went on last weekend, we add 4. something trilion. we have 20 trillion reasons to try to protect the economy and people of texas from what we believe is it a certain coming disaster. >> and you folks are leading a serious effort and
the taliban targeted her because of stopping young girls from getting education . we wish her all of the best. and there is a movement brewing in texas to get the state to secede from the u.s.. there is it a petition on the white house website that received 124,000 signatures since president obama's reelection. has the fiscal cliff helped thrertheir cause. joining us is it the texas national move the group pushing for secession. tell us why it is it time for texas to secede from the union?...
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i will give you 30,000 troops on top of what is already there to gut-punch the taliban and try to soften up the system, and that's all you get, if you can change the circumstances. the military overpromised and underdelivered. and i think that the resolve of not only the president, but joe biden having always been in that view in coordination with others on the team like dennis mcdonough and tom donilon, really recall the deal and the terms of the deal and they took the troops back. and that broke the back of a notion that a large military footprint delivered automatically the kind of security deliverables that the military was promising. it actually created blowback and counterreaction much like the alliance that you showed in that piece that there is more violence after the surge than before the surge. >> that i think is the key conceptual that security advances from troop numbers. you didn't get the advances you said would come with the troop numbers. so now you don't get troop numbers indefinitely because they haven't been proven to have the strategic effect that you said they would.
i will give you 30,000 troops on top of what is already there to gut-punch the taliban and try to soften up the system, and that's all you get, if you can change the circumstances. the military overpromised and underdelivered. and i think that the resolve of not only the president, but joe biden having always been in that view in coordination with others on the team like dennis mcdonough and tom donilon, really recall the deal and the terms of the deal and they took the troops back. and that...
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political process that would include the critical internal players inside afghanistan not just the taliban but the other ethnic and political groups essentially those who made up the northern alliance before nine eleven the tajiks uzbeks and others but would also include in a significant substantive way afghanistan's neighbors in addition to the united states and russia something that we had to deal with afghanistan in two thousand and one we had this right after nine eleven the united states and russia worked very closely with the neighbors of afghanistan to overthrow that to push out of afghanistan and to set up this karzai government we worked well together but the united states i think lost track of the good model and now is trying to tried to coerce a military outcome there has failed and now the ideal way forward would be to come back to the political table to diplomacy to work with the internal players in afghanistan as well as the neighbors and russia to have a political way forward but the united states has been very reluctant to engage in serious talks in this regard both because
political process that would include the critical internal players inside afghanistan not just the taliban but the other ethnic and political groups essentially those who made up the northern alliance before nine eleven the tajiks uzbeks and others but would also include in a significant substantive way afghanistan's neighbors in addition to the united states and russia something that we had to deal with afghanistan in two thousand and one we had this right after nine eleven the united states...
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taliban are there. taliban today i find that -- [inaudible]. so taliban as part of the political landscape of afghanistan to how they are connected, basically something which would be verified, do you want council? d1 government? pakistan, here i must say that there is a classic book. i read a long time ago, but i off and on we did. to just remind myself -- to just read it. is the history and the tradition and the development of these to crunch. so sometimes our problems become your problems, and your problems become our problems. >> do you want to comment? >> particularly on that question, i think in the context that takes place between pakistani army and afghan government, pakistani army position is that we should start out among ourselves, let's get americans out of here. they have bigger plans, other intentions. so in the private meetings, i think therefore smaller presence, privately we welcome. publicly there might be considered again, as ambassador indicated, there are many other forces and pakistan that may have concern about the impact
taliban are there. taliban today i find that -- [inaudible]. so taliban as part of the political landscape of afghanistan to how they are connected, basically something which would be verified, do you want council? d1 government? pakistan, here i must say that there is a classic book. i read a long time ago, but i off and on we did. to just remind myself -- to just read it. is the history and the tradition and the development of these to crunch. so sometimes our problems become your problems,...
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taliban office in qatar, in doha. where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace. where we will be seeking the help of relevantbe countrys including pakistan. >> bret: pakistan is the real question here, jonah. how that country fits in the equation. [ brief pause in captioning ] >> it used to have anger toward taliban. the one pushing the most for women's rights in afghanistan. that's how i feel. we could stay in afghanistan and destroy them. i would be fully on board. the problem is we have been there for a decade and we have not been able to eradicate them. >> bret: pakistan? >> had the image of taliban. i think pakistan is the key. it is not going to act in a moral way. lack of the national interest. it will control the taliban. it's not going to be independent. it will will have a huge influence. perhaps it looks for partition that northern element and capital are under control of the northern alliance and the south is the taliban. taliban. it's interest
taliban office in qatar, in doha. where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace. where we will be seeking the help of relevantbe countrys including pakistan. >> bret: pakistan is the real question here, jonah. how that country fits in the equation. [ brief pause in captioning ] >> it used to have anger toward taliban. the one pushing the most for women's rights in afghanistan. that's how i feel. we could stay in...
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and nato will be blamed if and when that country falls in the hands of the taliban operatives again that would take afghanistan to square a zero the exact square that brought us and. doing into afghanistan as more americans oppose the war in afghanistan pressure on obama is growing the cost of the war is high just this past year the cost of the war in afghanistan was over one hundred billion dollars each soldier costs one million dollars a year and potentially a loss of life these are staggering figures and those who oppose the war say this money you could help build the nation's ailing infrastructure for r.t. america this is remarkable how washington d.c. for over ten years it's cast a shadow over u.s. diplomatic efforts the guantanamo bay detention facility opened up exactly a loving years ago today in its time it is held and interrogated at hundreds of prisoners some guilty of numerous atrocities some completely clean of crime all held without due process eleven years and still no into sight now since the first days of his first term our constitutional lawyer term president has expres
and nato will be blamed if and when that country falls in the hands of the taliban operatives again that would take afghanistan to square a zero the exact square that brought us and. doing into afghanistan as more americans oppose the war in afghanistan pressure on obama is growing the cost of the war is high just this past year the cost of the war in afghanistan was over one hundred billion dollars each soldier costs one million dollars a year and potentially a loss of life these are...
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have been very clear about is that, from our perspective, it is not possible to reconcile without the taliban renouncing terrorism, without without them recognizing the afghan constitution. and recognizing that if there are changes that they want to make, to how the afghan government operates, then there is an orderly constitutional process to do that. you can't resort to violence? the afghan constitution protect. the rights of the afghan women. and the united states strongly believes that afghanistan cannot succeed unless it gives opportunities to its women. we believe that about every country in the world. and so you know, we will continue to voice very strongly, support for the afghan constitution, protection of minorities, protection of women. we think that a failure to provide that protection, not only will make reconciliation impossible to achieve, but also, would make afghanistan's long-term development impossible to achieve. the single best indicator or one of the best indicators of a country's prosperity around the world is how does it treat its women. does educate that half of the p
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the taliban must renounce terrorism. the president diverted attention from those asking whether 11 years of war were worth it by announcing today army staff sergeant clinton romesha who helped repel one of the most vicious attacks in eastern afghanistan in 2009 would receive the medal of honor, shepard. >> shepard: first you kill the taliban and then you have him in for talks. fascinating. 2013. jen griffin at the pentagon. thanks. john boehner formally invited the president to deliver his first state of the union of his second term the date february 12th. he has to be invited, you know. the president hats accepted the date which also happens to be abraham lincoln's birthday it will touch on immigration reform spending and gun control. in a letter to the president speaker boehner wrote our nation continues to face immense challenges and the american people expect us to work together in the new year to find meaningful solutions. this will require a willingness to seek common ground as well as presidential leadership. mean
the taliban must renounce terrorism. the president diverted attention from those asking whether 11 years of war were worth it by announcing today army staff sergeant clinton romesha who helped repel one of the most vicious attacks in eastern afghanistan in 2009 would receive the medal of honor, shepard. >> shepard: first you kill the taliban and then you have him in for talks. fascinating. 2013. jen griffin at the pentagon. thanks. john boehner formally invited the president to deliver...
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strength now i don't think it's turned out the way the president probably wanted it to because the taliban is so clearly on the office but the idea that the president did his best he tried to send more troops it didn't work he gave it as we say in the united states the old college try and it just didn't work i think for an american population that is both battered financially and very tired of endless wars and occupations this is something that will basically go forward without a hitch in terms of american public opinion. wired he will be back with the latest headlines in around thirty minutes and meantime we have with breaking a sweat. because of recent events guns have a become a big issue all over the usa both sides are throwing their talking point ammunition back and forth and we hear a lot of conflicting stories well in australia they got tough on guns and crime went down but then again others say in the u.k. they got rid of all their gods and all hell broke loose i've heard stories that you are way more likely to be killed by a deer in your headlights than get taken out by a maniac w
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>> 354,000 afghan national army people roughly, but the problem are the taliban, the taliban are pashtun. do you know what percent of that afghan national army are pashtun? 2%. >> that's right. >> this army, they're basically seen as northern invaders from other tribes. they're they've not been treated as a ver vant class. they make up the army. they're not going to be allowed in the helmand provinces. >> we're going to have a divided country like laeb none. >> you're absolutely right. >> the american people will be watching it on television and reading in the newspaper about beheadings and awful treatment of women in those areas controlled by the pashtuns, right? >> yes, they will, but the bigger question is what contingency of u.s. troops can stop that? >> if we're not staying in there big time, 100,000 troops basically, we might as well get out because we can't control the future of the country pvend. >> and convert it to the operation that the president talked about where we're going security and training -- >> it raises the old question when you go in 11, 12 years ago you knew you h
>> 354,000 afghan national army people roughly, but the problem are the taliban, the taliban are pashtun. do you know what percent of that afghan national army are pashtun? 2%. >> that's right. >> this army, they're basically seen as northern invaders from other tribes. they're they've not been treated as a ver vant class. they make up the army. they're not going to be allowed in the helmand provinces. >> we're going to have a divided country like laeb none. >>...
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the taliban have a saying in afghanistan, talking about the u.s. they say you have the watches. we have the time. and they're just watching this debate in washington and calculating when they're going to be able to get back into power. bill: do you really believe that though? do you buy that public argument they're making, we will entertain the possibility that we leave zero troops behind? or is that just a negotiating ploy with karzai on friday? >> well look, we're not there to help karzai. i don't have anything against him or the people of afghanistan but we're not in that country to secure his regime or give those people a better life. we're there to prevent taliban from retaking control of the country and once again using it as a base for international terrorism and, endangering the government of pakistan and risking the prospect that pakistan is very substantial arsenal of nuclear weapons would fall into radical hands. that's why we're there and if we lose sight of that and i think that's what the administration is doing, we'll find ourselves sooner, rather than later, unde
the taliban have a saying in afghanistan, talking about the u.s. they say you have the watches. we have the time. and they're just watching this debate in washington and calculating when they're going to be able to get back into power. bill: do you really believe that though? do you buy that public argument they're making, we will entertain the possibility that we leave zero troops behind? or is that just a negotiating ploy with karzai on friday? >> well look, we're not there to help...